Marko Reveals Ferrari & Renault Likely To Side With Red Bull

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Red Bull have confirmed that they will be taking over Honda’s engine operations at the end of this year provided the FIA implements a freeze on development. It was expected that this freeze would be finalized last week but the other teams could not come to an agreement. Red Bull advisor Helmut Marko has now spoken about all this with F1-insider
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I'm your host Dillon Shelley and first up on Formula World:
Helmut Marko’s Surprising Revelation About Teams He Expects Would Support An Engine Freeze
Marko began by explaining why the freeze on engine development is important
“For F1, it’s an obvious common sense decision. The engine freeze is the most important thing”
He further explained how a freeze is more feasible than aligning the performance of all the teams
“The so-called safety net of alignment will certainly be more difficult. But if the development freeze is there, the whole project is already easier for us to handle”
He then revealed how an agreement regarding the engine freeze was in place last week but eventually fell through
“The agreement that still existed on Friday was no longer available on Monday”
He was then asked if he thought that their rivals would eventually agree anyway and that these are just tactics to keep Red Bull guessing. He replied by saying,
“That is not a wrong thought”
Marko signed off by delving into the number of votes they need and the teams he expects to support them which surprisingly did not include Mercedes or any of their customer teams despite Mercedes vocally supporting the engine freeze in public
“We need six of the ten votes from the teams, so only a simple majority. I assume that in addition to Red Bull and Alpha Tauri, the three Ferrari teams Ferrari, Alfa Romeo and Haas as well as Renault will agree”

Fast Feed
Juan Manuel Correa who suffered a horrific crash during the 2019 F2 race in Spa will make a return to racing with F3 team ART Grand Prix
He is “extremely happy to be back after what” he has “been through” and he is “super thankful to ART Grand Prix”
He further added that “F3 is a transition year” and his “dream is still to reach F1 and this is the first step in” his “comeback”
Mercedes technical director James Allison has explained that “every regulation brings opportunities once you can see exactly what they are saying”
As such, they have to adapt their “operation and” their “company so that” they “can make the most from it and to be ready for the challenge of this new era of F1 operating under a cost cap”
Reigning world champion Lewis Hamilton appreciated the way Ayrton Senna “drove, the colors of his helmet, the passion with which he spoke and his victories”
He, therefore wanted “to become a driver like him and get to F1” and he “considered it the most beautiful job in the world”
He further feels that Senna “faced alone a system that wasn’t always kind to him, something” Hamilton “experienced too in” his “career, albeit for different reasons”
Andrew Westacott, chief executive at the Australian Grand Prix Corporation has revealed that the “feedback” they’ve “had from F1 is that” they’re “sort of mid-way” when it comes to tyre wear
They’re “not the most aggressive”, they’re “not the least aggressive” - they “just don’t do much to tyres”
He added that “having a slightly higher abrasiveness of the asphalt mix”, they’ll “be able to get more strategies”
Pierre Gasly has divulged that from the time he “was six years old”, he “dreamed of winning a Formula 1 Grand Prix and experiencing a moment like that”
Frederik Vesti who recently became a Mercedes junior driver feels that being chosen by “Mercedes does not mean pressure, rather having a great opportunity to work with a group of extremely competitive and prepared people”
Stefano Bonaccini, president of Emilia Romagna has confirmed that they “are thinking of only allowing vaccinated people in” for the race in Imola
Helmut Marko feels that AlphaTauri’s Yuki Tsunoda “has learned that you don’t win races in the first corner of the first lap. You also have to watch your tyres”
Marko added that Tsunoda “has learned a lot already, but when it comes down to it he can make incredible overtakes”

Is freezing engine development the right way forward for F1 during these times?

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Formula World
Formula World 2 måneder siden
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Erick Hansen
Erick Hansen 2 måneder siden
Lmfao so Ferrari who cheated to make the most powerful engine of the hybrid era is now supporting an engine freeze I’m assuming because Mercedes legally created the most powerful engine last year. Ferrari despite their constructors financial earnings still make more $ than any other team. They just need a proper leader to create that motivating mindset for their employees who have the drive to create the best of the best under the legal guidelines.
Josh Goode
Josh Goode 2 måneder siden
An engine freeze brings a few issues to the table that a lot of people don't realize. This is the reason it fell through. Chassis components, steering components, drive train components, body parts are all designed around the engine. The powertrain is a HUGE part of a Formula 1 car. You freeze engine development that has a cascade effect throughout the whole car. I really dont think Ferrari will vote with Red Bull. Ferrari needs a whole new chassis and Powertrain because of their disastrous 2020 season.
sandriya jayanth
sandriya jayanth 2 måneder siden
why is he even der?
Rukiyati Kuebler
Rukiyati Kuebler 2 måneder siden
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Matteo
Matteo 2 måneder siden
So basically Renault and Ferrari told Marko to piss off. Makes sense.
Rory Algate
Rory Algate 2 måneder siden
no engine freeze how ridiculous
Captain Blacktooth
Captain Blacktooth 2 måneder siden
One would imagine that Renault and Ferrari are perfectly capable of saying what they think, without Dr Evil sticking his face in .... Personally I dislike RBR, the management are bullies and do nothing but sound off and threaten .... Really RBR, be quiet, build an engine or don't, stay or leave ... But do be QUIET!!
Leo Arc
Leo Arc 2 måneder siden
I'm pretty sure that in the early 2010's Marko would've loved to freeze development in the cokebottle area, including the exhausts' position . What goes around, comes around. The cycle of politics.
Dharshan Kumar
Dharshan Kumar 2 måneder siden
stupid marko!!!!!!!!!!!
Arved Ludwig
Arved Ludwig 2 måneder siden
Was Marko talking about Tsunoda or Schumacher? Sounded an awful lot like latter.
Lostsage01
Lostsage01 2 måneder siden
I still think this freeze idea for RB’s sake is stupid. If RB is going to takeover and operate Honda’s engine program (which I’m happy they are doing btw) then they should be capable of developing that engine, just like the other engine manufacturers. Yes it’s difficult and expensive, this is F1 after all. But the benefit is being able to find gains with an engine your competitors don’t have.
Mr Bungle
Mr Bungle 2 måneder siden
Well this sport will sink in innovation and difference,i rly hope they change the engine regs so VW or BMW or Lamborghini will enter f1,more simpler and accessible engines
Justin Time
Justin Time 2 måneder siden
What he says is bs 99 % of the time
Simon
Simon 2 måneder siden
Surly a freeze on development would be to hold back progress! If freezing progress is a good thing, about 70% of your views wouldn't have a smartphone to watch your video on, think about it.
Man Kay
Man Kay 2 måneder siden
If Red Bull wanst to freeze their engine.... Go Ahead... Make sure its Minus 20 degrees Celcius
Man Kay
Man Kay 2 måneder siden
A problem for Red Bull has nothing to do with other teams... Sorry Red Bull.. If you can't... You Can't....
Graham Vernon
Graham Vernon 2 måneder siden
Red bull wouldn't be interested in an engine freeze if Honda where staying..... So should the sport revolve around Red Bulls status??
Graham Vernon
Graham Vernon 2 måneder siden
@ctdesing Thats funny because Renault themselves pointed out that when Renault was contemplating asking for an engine freeze Red bull (whislt Honda was on board) wasn't at all interested!?!?. Renault then decided to push ahead and said they WOULDN'T now want a engine freeze, because when they put out the idea it was rejected, so Renault made plans to develop their future engine division??... Was that comment not put out by Cyril Abiteboul? Maybe it wasn't in the regulation? and you didn't see it?
ctdesing
ctdesing 2 måneder siden
They would this time as this engine freeze includes a performance equalizer regulation, Mercedes is the one rejecting it as they have the best engine, and have to freeze it and let Renault and Ferrari develop theirs until performance equalize, read the regulation before commenting.
Renlys Other Lover
Renlys Other Lover 2 måneder siden
I really don’t understand why any team would agree to this and why it’s good for f1. It’s good for red Bull and that’s it it’s not the rest of the fields problem. They could go become customers again
ctdesing
ctdesing 2 måneder siden
this engine freeze includes a performance equalizer regulation, Mercedes is the one rejecting it as they have the best engine, and have to freeze it and let Renault and Ferrari develop theirs until performance equalize, read the regulation before commenting.
Alan Doyle
Alan Doyle 2 måneder siden
Red bull can’t sort an engine for 2022 so everybody else has to freeze there engine development??? Mental How boring is the next few years gonna be -nobody will be able to touch Mercedes engine power. It’s gonna be even more of a bore fest
John William
John William 2 måneder siden
Lets all just change the rules so redbull can win again.....A development freeze in Formula 1...... Why would anybody watch of spend money to sponsor that.... why not just race 1966 cars again. it would be more interesting........I think the small helmet has been doing the thinking again.
Ставридес Келевра
Ставридес Келевра 2 måneder siden
After Red Bulls snitched about Ferrari engine it's highly unlikely that passionate italians will support bulls...
Ставридес Келевра
Ставридес Келевра 2 måneder siden
​@ctdesing you clearly never worked with italians if you think their own good and prosperity means more for them then revenge on dudes that insulted them, lol. Plus their new engine is reported to be not that worse than merk's...
ctdesing
ctdesing 2 måneder siden
this engine freeze includes a performance equalizer regulation, Mercedes is the one rejecting it as they have the best engine, and have to freeze it and let Renault and Ferrari develop theirs until performance equalize, read the regulation before commenting.
Jellybeantiger
Jellybeantiger 2 måneder siden
Mercedes #weareeveryonesworldchampionship
inelectron
inelectron 2 måneder siden
I hope Redbull don't get anything! Its always about them, even sky milk them like there Gods.
foreva young
foreva young 2 måneder siden
Do these idiots realize that mercedes are ahead and any freeze will only mean merc will stay ahead 🤣
Tat Kwong
Tat Kwong 2 måneder siden
It is also common sense that you don't burn that bridge with Renault when both you and horner were slagging them in public, so that must mean that you have no common sense!
Richard Schoonhoven
Richard Schoonhoven 2 måneder siden
They were with Renault for a long time, and had successes. Switching after 5 years turbo hybrid era issues is not strange. Renault was keeping them back as they were competitors.
Toniic
Toniic 2 måneder siden
Mandatory vaccination to be allowed in at Imola...we definetely don't live in a world of free choice. Why can't I just decide what to do with MY BODY myself? When the majority of people want a vaccination anyways, then it's not even a problem in the slightest, if there are a few people that don't want to get it. That seems to be the situation from what I can tell over social media. Noone really seems worried about letting some untested vaccine be put in their body. Do whatever you want, but don't tell someone that has been looking after his health for years what to do to his body!
JLM PC
JLM PC 2 måneder siden
if there is an engine freeze, f1 gets more boring than it already is
JLM PC
JLM PC 2 måneder siden
@ctdesing still shit lmao
ctdesing
ctdesing 2 måneder siden
this engine freeze includes a performance equalizer regulation, Mercedes is the one rejecting it as they have the best engine, and have to freeze it and let Renault and Ferrari develop theirs until performance equalize, read the regulation before commenting.
Blackout Menace
Blackout Menace 2 måneder siden
Why would anyone apart from Mercedes agree to this stupidity. They have the strongest engine and it benefits them the most. Meanwhile ferrari and renault can improve a lot. RBR should just buy it from one of them than trying to kill the development and competition
ctdesing
ctdesing 2 måneder siden
this engine freeze includes a performance equalizer regulation, Mercedes is the one rejecting it as they have the best engine, and have to freeze it and let Renault and Ferrari develop theirs until performance equalize, read the regulation before commenting.
Terence Hogben
Terence Hogben 2 måneder siden
When is Helmut going to retire? What an ass
Syd Clark
Syd Clark 2 måneder siden
Mr Marko seems to have forgot Renault clear stance on the engine freeze proposal. (Please forgive me if this is not exactly word for word). Renault said "Red Bull can go fuck themselves" ...and not for the first time 😉
Rudolf Huijs
Rudolf Huijs 2 måneder siden
I can't stand this old guy Marko. Loads of BS from his mouth everytime. RB has always been the whinning boy, pointing finger at others, first supporting the continuos engine development when it suited them and now advocating the contrary. It ain't the Formula World channel anymore, it is openly now Red Bull Formula World. Time to unsubscribe.
b3rs
b3rs 2 måneder siden
2:31 When? How?
Stewart Icke
Stewart Icke 2 måneder siden
No way should there be an engine freeze - that's one of the main reasons F1 exists - Forwards NOT Backwards - I say !!
JerkyJ
JerkyJ 2 måneder siden
Coming up this week, on the "Red Bull Report"
Todd Martin
Todd Martin 2 måneder siden
But the Honda is a peice of shit! Why would you want to cut your own balls off- not be able to improve on what you have? It's just handing the championship to Mercedes
Gautaman S
Gautaman S 2 måneder siden
It's stupid for Renault to accept that and for RBR to expect Renault to accept that. If RB can't continue with Honda and Ferrari ain't gonna supply RB they are stipulated to choose Renault. Won't that be a gain for Renault. Cyril is gone, they could make the marriage work. If they don't have funds to continue with Honda, they should rather ditch their Honda plans. I don't see why 8 teams have to suffer this way 🤔
TomorrowComesToday
TomorrowComesToday 2 måneder siden
So, how much is RedBull going to pay PER for this season?, I haven't read anything. I recall in one video that they said he was one of the best payed drivers on the grid
spaybuy sell
spaybuy sell 2 måneder siden
VER - 19mill PER - 3.4mill
Brandon L
Brandon L 2 måneder siden
Since Red Bull says it I assume it’s not true. They are just so full of shit.
TJ32
TJ32 2 måneder siden
Red Bull isn't being forced to take over Honda's engine program. That's the path they chose. They have other engine options available to them. Plus they fought against other teams not to have an engine freeze, now they're saying it's the only way.
alan mac
alan mac 2 måneder siden
Apparently it's not a freeze at all. It's only Mercedes who will be forced to suspend development.
Gumnaam Aadmi
Gumnaam Aadmi 2 måneder siden
*Horner calls Cyril* ‘Now I have an engine, and two of the best drivers on the grid’ 😈
Sean Thompson
Sean Thompson 2 måneder siden
only allowing vaccinated people in how ridiculous!!!!???
TheSpanishiwa
TheSpanishiwa 2 måneder siden
RBAHM
Sean Thompson
Sean Thompson 2 måneder siden
Take masks off en mass we all know covid is absolute BS!!! its not a virus its the fucking flu man! no big fucking wank and no lock down for the flu! my wife had the flu, i slept right next to her they say she had no covid but we know that BS, i didnt get it, and i slept right next to her! every night! its not a virus, the flu is not a virus! you get it when u are run down! achy muscles, low energy, no big deal, you take vitamins, x 2 multi , x 2 Vitamin C, 2x ZInc, and x 2 Vitamin D and you will be better within 3 days if you dont take any pharmaceutical drugs or have an underlying health condition. If you take pharma drugs it could take you 5 to 14 days to recover as your immune system will automatically be lower becasuse of. So you have nothing to loose try the above, its natural vitamins. My wife did it and she was better in 3 days!!! No drugs neede! no vaccines needed! tell. the govs of the world to shove the BS up there asses with a dash of SPEED!!!
Ivan Kegalj
Ivan Kegalj 2 måneder siden
Yeah I can totally see Ferrari being ok with an engine freeze. They lack the most in the engine department so it makes sense (in Marko's head at least) for them to sing off on another couple years of miserable performance just to assist Red Bull. I mean why wouldn't they🤣
Ivan Kegalj
Ivan Kegalj 2 måneder siden
@ctdesing oh. I thought it's a development freeze that applies to everyone equally. Thx for the clarification 👍🏼
ctdesing
ctdesing 2 måneder siden
this engine freeze includes a performance equalizer regulation, Mercedes is the one rejecting it as they have the best engine, and have to freeze it and let Renault and Ferrari develop theirs until performance equalize, read the regulation before commenting.
TacticalBunnyCA
TacticalBunnyCA 2 måneder siden
They should go to v8 and v10 and finally just admit that hybrids are boring.
TacticalBunnyCA
TacticalBunnyCA 2 måneder siden
@Alan Doyle Don’t have the time yet you’ll watch and comment in YT vids on the topic? There’s got to ve something there you still like. Thing is I don’t know when concern over tires and fuel hasn’t been a thing in every form of racing except for Sprint and Drag racing. I actually really enjoy the team pit stop so in F1 but I think they should be required to run all three tire compounds throughout the race. As for the FIA... it’s a rather aristocratic ($$$) organization when compared to something like Indycar now isn’t it?
Alan Doyle
Alan Doyle 2 måneder siden
@TacticalBunnyCA your right ground affect would be good for the sport but tyre and fuel saving is just completely against what racing is all about. Slowing down mid race to save tyres and fuel? The fia have done so much damage to the sport it will take 20 years to repair and I just ain’t got the patience for that.
TacticalBunnyCA
TacticalBunnyCA 2 måneder siden
@Alan Doyle I have big hope for ground effects in 22. Honestly I hate the v6 for the noise and nothing else I could deal a hybrid if it had no turbo on exhaust.
Alan Doyle
Alan Doyle 2 måneder siden
Not just the power packs the f**king sh*t tyres too. Engine and tyre saving the most boring formula in the world to watch. It’s not racing. Last year was the last for me liberty have done nothing but increase the boring show.
Bodhijit Biswas
Bodhijit Biswas 2 måneder siden
They are but that ain't happening mate.
Jasper Or
Jasper Or 2 måneder siden
Gullible Marko
False Catalyst
False Catalyst 2 måneder siden
now, lmao shows how senility of Marko, now that Alpine and Ferrari are trying to introduce new engines, Red Bull are now stranded
Takumi Fujiwara
Takumi Fujiwara 2 måneder siden
Hamilton comparing himself to senna lol. He self proclaims that he faces issues that he think of himself
Duderama 67
Duderama 67 2 måneder siden
Sir Lewis thinks he's had a tough time? That's precious, little snowflake. Tell us all about your hard life, Mr. Never had a real job. Weep for yourself while you chow down on a bowlful of $100 bills.
Anything Goes
Anything Goes 2 måneder siden
Fact " Senna faced alone a system that wasn't always kind to him" If you know you know
Anything Goes
Anything Goes 2 måneder siden
Marko shit show
John La Monte
John La Monte 2 måneder siden
The only thing that matters in F1 is that the lying, cheating nazis at Mercedes win at all costs! Who do you think owns and runs F1? Wanna guess??? The nazis who have won ALL the championships the last 7, or now 8 years.......NaZis vill be victorious! Und rule Z vorld!
raymond fry
raymond fry 2 måneder siden
Marko we have to find a way of crippling Mercedes or we will leave F1.
Jordan Kenny
Jordan Kenny 2 måneder siden
Thumbnail has me rolling
yes
yes 2 måneder siden
His face on the thumbnail tho
Jerry Bouwer
Jerry Bouwer 2 måneder siden
Freezing development is not a good thing.
Charles Miller
Charles Miller 2 måneder siden
@Jerry Bouwer I think @ctdesing is Helmut Marko lol
Jerry Bouwer
Jerry Bouwer 2 måneder siden
@ctdesing Just give them all the same engine then is what you are saying. That is not F1.
ctdesing
ctdesing 2 måneder siden
... when there's a performance deficit between manufacturers, but this time the engine freeze includes a performance equalizer regulation, Mercedes is the one rejecting it as they have the best engine, and have to freeze it and let Renault and Ferrari develop theirs until performance equalize, read the regulation before commenting.
Jesus Fon
Jesus Fon 2 måneder siden
It goes against the DNA of F1, if Red Bull can't afford engines and refuse engines from other teams that's a them problem not an F1 problem.
ctdesing
ctdesing 2 måneder siden
it's f1's problem if they leave, have you taken a look on tv networks audience? i don't think so. if RB leaves more millions will stop watching, if Mercedes keep winning with such margins more audience lost, 2022 may be my last year watching F1, RB leaving or not. Can they sell the team? Difficult, Honda is leaving, Haas may leave as well, the stock market may crash, you can buy 3 Alphatauri teams for one RBR. (Even more if you don't buy wind tunnels and other equipment as AT is now using RBR wind tunnel and buying the chassis, suspension steering wheel, tech, gearbox, etc from RBR); Yep, RBR build their gearbox, not Honda.
Four utubez
Four utubez 2 måneder siden
"Revealed" the bleeding obvious lol
Chris A.
Chris A. 2 måneder siden
Helmut is a supervillain. Do not believe.
alan mac
alan mac 2 måneder siden
"Marko explains" = "We want it, therefore it's the right thing to do." Funny thing is, Mercedes will benefit from a development freeze more than anyone else.
alan mac
alan mac 2 måneder siden
@ctdesing so it's actually not a freeze then, it's a performance penalty. That's not F1. If teams want performance handicaps they should get out of F1 and compete in WEC or the like.
ctdesing
ctdesing 2 måneder siden
this engine freeze includes a performance equalizer regulation, Mercedes is the one rejecting it as they have the best engine, and have to freeze it and let Renault and Ferrari develop theirs until performance equalize, read the regulation before commenting.
Valerie Rodger
Valerie Rodger 2 måneder siden
Yeah, that's why he is full of BS. Mercedes have the dominant power unit, and have to deal with the law of diminishing returns. Nothing they would love more than nobody being allowed to develop their engine and potentially catch up to them.
ROB P
ROB P 2 måneder siden
if you spread out Marco’s comments we would have 5 episodes a week
Ryan Hurst
Ryan Hurst 2 måneder siden
What annoys me is Red Bull could take the Renault engine under the F1 rules. They would not have to leave the sport, no one is forcing them to take on this project. The whole sport shouldn't freeze to accommodate their goals of advancing.
Louis Cypher
Louis Cypher 2 måneder siden
@ctdesing this isn't banning something that other teams don't have access too or removing a loophole like DAS. This is about punishing success pure and simple. Is this is going to be an on going thing now? every few years we just cripple a manufacturer for being successful? or is it just a once off to appease RedBull? Why stop at allowing "Renault to catch up"? Why don't we give William's a chance to catch up? After all this is about, fairness and "adding" to the sport right, not just sabotaging Redbull's main opponent? So why don't we add weight to cars depending on how much faster they are then Williams? or better yet, why don't the people who support an engine freeze just go watch indycar, take redbull with you and leave F1 alone?
ctdesing
ctdesing 2 måneder siden
@Louis Cypher The difference is the pinnacle have been banning teams inventions for a long time to equalize performance, this is no difference and will add a lot to F1 as a team like Renault will be fighting at the top because they only have to invest money in the car, not the engine.
Louis Cypher
Louis Cypher 2 måneder siden
@ctdesing In other words it's designed to fuck over RB's main rival. Even if that came about the only thing it would "add'" would be making the series a total farce. Fucking over 10 years of work for redbull's pride? I'd rather the first proposal of just having predictable outcomes thanks at least everyone can agree it would be earned. F1 is supposed to be pinnacle of motorsport not some shitty little handicap comp. There's a reason why all of these sports with their "equalisation" measures have been unable to topple F1.
ctdesing
ctdesing 2 måneder siden
this engine freeze includes a performance equalizer regulation, Mercedes is the one rejecting it as they have the best engine, and have to freeze it and let Renault and Ferrari develop theirs until performance equalize, if engines performance equalize it would only add to F1.
Louis Cypher
Louis Cypher 2 måneder siden
​@Arkangel Gaming and that will make the series boring as shit until at least 25-26. Renault and Ferrari aren't catching Merc and RBR without some pretty significant changes to their engines. What a fantastic new era of the same outcome every year. They may as well just fuck the manufacturers off and have Liberty pay Cosworth to supply a crate engine.
Ryan Hurst
Ryan Hurst 2 måneder siden
If Mercedes is supporting the freeze then you know it's a bad idea
ctdesing
ctdesing 2 måneder siden
this engine freeze includes a performance equalizer regulation, Mercedes is the one rejecting it as they have the best engine, and have to freeze it and let Renault and Ferrari develop theirs until performance equalize, read the regulation before commenting.
Kenny Phillips
Kenny Phillips 2 måneder siden
Yep, it means that they expect that their 2021 engine, at the end of the season (when the freeze would take place), would be supreme. Based on previous years, I'd agree.
TheSharpoint1
TheSharpoint1 2 måneder siden
What if Dillon is actually some sort of omnipotent god, and creates these stories just he has NOpost content
Diallo Wilson
Diallo Wilson 2 måneder siden
Marko translation: our engines are good but we don’t want the other teams to have good engines too.
Peter Southern
Peter Southern 2 måneder siden
Marko has an opinion. In other news the sky is blue.
Mohamed Ally
Mohamed Ally 2 måneder siden
When Toto said he would support the RBR proposal Horner's comment was cynical. So why would they now expect public support after a slap in the face? Have a listen here confirming the reports of Merc support a few months ago ---> nopost.info/throw/q5ish2K8qmajcpo/video
ctdesing
ctdesing 2 måneder siden
this engine freeze includes a performance equalizer regulation, Mercedes is the one rejecting it as they have the best engine, and have to freeze it and let Renault and Ferrari develop theirs until performance equalize, read the regulation before commenting.
Andrius Matijosius
Andrius Matijosius 2 måneder siden
I do not understand their logic, how are they goin to catch up with mercedes? if they freeze as it is now, mercedes wont even need to do anything to stay ahead,
Andrius Matijosius
Andrius Matijosius 2 måneder siden
@ctdesing I think it is even more ridiculous. If the goal is to make all engines with the same output, why just not give every team the same engine. That will reduce money spending and thats what they are really into.
ctdesing
ctdesing 2 måneder siden
this engine freeze includes a performance equalizer regulation, Mercedes is the one rejecting it as they have the best engine, and have to freeze it and let Renault and Ferrari develop theirs until performance equalize, read the regulation before commenting.
Boocho
Boocho 2 måneder siden
why on earth is Ferrari going to side whit Red Bull last year they got butcherd by the engine freez
ctdesing
ctdesing 2 måneder siden
because this engine freeze includes a performance equalizer regulation, Mercedes is the one rejecting it as they have the best engine, and have to freeze it and let Renault and Ferrari develop theirs until performance equalize, read the regulation before commenting.
Tjidde Nieuwenhuizen
Tjidde Nieuwenhuizen 2 måneder siden
Since two teams leaving F1 is worst for them then having engine that isn't the best.
Ole Köhler
Ole Köhler 2 måneder siden
@comeatme Bro I think it has something to do with the company as a lot of money goes into the engine and due to covid that money could be needed elsewhere
comeatme Bro
comeatme Bro 2 måneder siden
i don't get why Renault would either, there engine seems to be getting better every year so it would be a counterproductive step leaving the merc engine as the clear best with the others having no chance to catch up
Ole Köhler
Ole Köhler 2 måneder siden
Maybe they did everytihng they could imagine so there is nothing left wxcept a lot more money wasted.
Brendo Yeah
Brendo Yeah 2 måneder siden
Hamilton is such a cupcake
SinisterMD
SinisterMD 2 måneder siden
Of course Mercedes wants and engine freeze. Theirs has produced nothing but overwhelming success.
ctdesing
ctdesing 2 måneder siden
this engine freeze includes a performance equalizer regulation, Mercedes is the one rejecting it as they have the best engine, and have to freeze it and let Renault and Ferrari develop theirs until performance equalize, read the regulation before commenting.
Ramsay Bolton
Ramsay Bolton 2 måneder siden
Good luck getting Renault on your side after all the insult you and the Redbull team threw at them
abbas ahmed
abbas ahmed 2 måneder siden
Engine freeze morally goes against the F1 legacy..... Marko wants to stop the very thing what makes F1 superior to other motorsports
Craig Ferguson
Craig Ferguson 2 måneder siden
2:29 What is Hamilton talking about?
James Suel
James Suel 2 måneder siden
@Craig Ferguson yes he is - but Lewis doesn't think so.
Craig Ferguson
Craig Ferguson 2 måneder siden
@James Suel He is treated same as any other driver in F1. What are you talking about??
James Suel
James Suel 2 måneder siden
Just a veiled comment so he doesn't have to say "racism" out loud and get vilified for playing that card. He still seems chapped with the sport that's made him multi-millionaire that from his POV F1 hasn't given him a fair shake due to the colour of his skin.
Gregorious Anomalous
Gregorious Anomalous 2 måneder siden
"I'm Dillon Shelley, Your host with the most of Marko's Musings! So, put on your waders and get ready to step in it!"
Joe Felony
Joe Felony 2 måneder siden
Feel free to leave the channel.
John Yu
John Yu 2 måneder siden
If he has Renault or Ferrari engine now, does he like to have engine-freeze.????
John Yu
John Yu 2 måneder siden
@ctdesing wow I didn't know about "performance equalizer" . Thank you for comment!
ctdesing
ctdesing 2 måneder siden
He would as this engine freeze includes a performance equalizer regulation, Mercedes is the one rejecting it as they have the best engine, and have to freeze it and let Renault and Ferrari develop theirs until performance equalize, read the regulation before commenting.
Jonathan Osuna
Jonathan Osuna 2 måneder siden
How to make Formula World 1. Helmut Marko 2. Say "Divulged" 3. Quote on Quotes " "" "
Sanat Prasad
Sanat Prasad 2 måneder siden
Honestly, as long as ferrari are able to claw back performance and come up with a reasonably competitive engine, I think an engine freeze would be great. There is always someone woth the top engines, and deficits among the field. Obviously everyone wants to have their engine be the top one so they develop, but If ferrari get a decent engine again, then all the engines on the grid will be reasonably competitive. Mercedes would still have a slight advantage, but these days we've seen it tend to be close enough for the whole car to matter, nit just the engine making a huge difference like it used to. Might as well freeze it to help reduce costs and keep red bull in the game, without (again, only if ferrari fixes its issues) locking anyone into several years of struggling with a poor engine
Zaphod
Zaphod 2 måneder siden
I'm glad to see JMC getting back in a seat, even if it's an F3 seat.
Youtubax
Youtubax 2 måneder siden
I miss the old Marko with his incendiary quotes on certain young pressured drivers.
Mitchell Baker
Mitchell Baker 2 måneder siden
Just wait for the season to start.
Ed Swann
Ed Swann 2 måneder siden
Helmut Marko is full of shit, I don't think he actually knows anything to do with F1
Matthew Camenzuli
Matthew Camenzuli 2 måneder siden
The way marko speaks is the complete opposite of what acctually would happen
Matthew Camenzuli
Matthew Camenzuli 2 måneder siden
@ctdesing i did its just that the differing of opinions between teams is confusing as everytime they have something different to say and that markos comments are ridiculous most of the time
ctdesing
ctdesing 2 måneder siden
The difference this time is this engine freeze includes a performance equalizer regulation, Mercedes is the one rejecting it as they have the best engine, and have to freeze it and let Renault and Ferrari develop theirs until performance equalize, read the regulation before commenting.
Rolando Tillit
Rolando Tillit 2 måneder siden
One more step for F1 to become Euro Indy car. Shame 2022 will have nearly spec engines and nearly spec chassis.
Marcelo
Marcelo 2 måneder siden
I think freezing the engines might help reduce overheating issues, so it could be good
Rolando Tillit
Rolando Tillit 2 måneder siden
Mercedes doesn't want to budge because the engine is and always has been their best weapon. If there is an engine freeze it means that there will have to be a performance convergence worked out this year. Either Mercedes stops developing this year allowing Renault Ferrari and Honda to catch up and freeze for 2022, or they'll implement a BOP. Neither scenario looks promising for Mercedes, so I imagine they're dragging their heels because they want to have the organization streamlined to work with the new inevitable agreement. Would it be terrible if the 4 manufacturers provide the FIA their latest spec power unit after the Abu Dhabi post season test 2021. Test them on a mule car(s) and or dyno, see how they compare, only way to see how they affect performance. Because I imagine it's a bit more complex than this power unit has more grunt, and needs less cooling.
Rolando Tillit
Rolando Tillit 2 måneder siden
@ctdesing We'll see. Honda didn't have time this year to show their final form. What they bring to track next year is better, yes others are making gains as well, however unless Mercedes makes the same gain from 2019 -> 2020 going into 2021, Honda will close the gap. The rest will be in Red Bull's hands. Are you implying that Mercedes is going to make a similar step in 2021 with the engine as they did in 2020? Or are others catching up to what Mercedes is up to? If everyone is starting to exploit exotic cylinder and piston coatings(which are allowed by the rules), how could they possibly expect to lower costs? When these coatings are reducing friction and wear letting you run extreme engine settings, you will pour all your money developing them. I guess it's not a problem for Mercedes when they have two gigantic petrochemical companies as title sponsors. How much power has Mercedes gained from Ineos coatings, and Petronas lubricants and fuel? I don't think Mercedes does anything special, they are ahead of the curve and well funded, the others are playing catchup. Marko only sees half as well as Toto. But Marko is wiser and more realistic, and above all decisive.
ctdesing
ctdesing 2 måneder siden
Honda will never catch up as they are leaving, the honda performance will stay as it is, same with Mercedes, Ferrari and Renault are the ones allowed to further develop their engines until performance "equalize".
Srijan Sharma
Srijan Sharma 2 måneder siden
Am I the only one who's missing Jan Lammers' comments? 🤣🤣🤣
Yves Souffle
Yves Souffle 2 måneder siden
The engine freeze is suddenly good because it's what they want at the moment. Politics.
ctdesing
ctdesing 2 måneder siden
this engine freeze includes a performance equalizer regulation, Mercedes is the one rejecting it as they have the best engine, and have to freeze it and let Renault and Ferrari develop theirs until performance equalize, read the regulation before commenting.
D.j.Aarts
D.j.Aarts 2 måneder siden
If Rb leaves F1 is as good as dead
Marsorry Ickua
Marsorry Ickua 2 måneder siden
I'd swear Helmut Marco works for this channel... :-/
Silence Dogood
Silence Dogood 2 måneder siden
What Hamilton had everything working with him... Senna had everything against him.. the mighty politics of f1
NPanic
NPanic 2 måneder siden
Why does he think Mercedes wouldnt agree?? They must really be confident in the engine update Honda will bring this year... (to me it seems they hope to have more power than Mercedes, hence why they wouldnt want a freeze)
Louis Cypher
Louis Cypher 2 måneder siden
Probably because in order to get Ferrari on board RB has agreed to the rumoured demands of power equalisation.
Hans Nordlander
Hans Nordlander 2 måneder siden
So stupid with an engine freeze
Matic
Matic 2 måneder siden
As much as I respect and admire Lewis this crying about race has to stop. Nobody inside F1 ever gave him a penalty for having more melanin in his skin.
Jun Ren Ong
Jun Ren Ong 2 måneder siden
Timing of penalty given in Russia 2020 may state otherwise .......
Jamal Waheed
Jamal Waheed 2 måneder siden
On god i hate RB more and more every day for these morons and their rumor spitting
McRocket
McRocket 2 måneder siden
Lewis desperately needs to go to the Kimi Raikkonen School of Lightening The Hell Up.
Marty Gaming
Marty Gaming 2 måneder siden
Red bull should have developed their own engine long time ago but they didn't, now they're hampering mercedes because they want an engine freeze ......
Donny Leong
Donny Leong 2 måneder siden
Why would any team other than Merc accept a freeze to just help Redbull?
ctdesing
ctdesing 2 måneder siden
this engine freeze includes a performance equalizer regulation, Mercedes is the one rejecting it as they have the best engine, and have to freeze it and let Renault and Ferrari develop theirs until performance equalize, read the regulation before commenting.
Juan Canales
Juan Canales 2 måneder siden
Yes!, Senna didn't have an European passport and paid the price for that
Queenlover1975
Queenlover1975 2 måneder siden
He wasnt French
Garrett B
Garrett B 2 måneder siden
I'd like to see the 2025 engine rules be presented for development from the point of the engine freeze for the v6 hybrids
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